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"What jobs have you held in your life?"
 
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I thought it would be kinda interesting for those who want to to post the jobs you've held in your life, whether compensated or not. Lots of valuable jobs held by women are not compensated, so don't be shy, here on the Margins these jobs are recognized, valued and appreciated.

Here are the jobs I have held, beginning at about 9 years old:

Babysitter (for my younger siblings; I was the oldest of five)
Babysitter for neighbors
Raspberry, blueberry, strawberry-picker (summers, ages 11-15, paid by the pound or the "flat", very hard work, now done here in the Pacific NW by migrant laborers, mostly Vietnamese, Cambodian, Hmong, Mexican people)
Restaurant busgirl (beginning at 15-1/2, the legal age for employment here)
Housecleaner (as a college student)
Volunteer worker in inner city Cincinnati, summer of 1970; I worked to get jobs for poor minority teenagers, housing, airfare, transportation and food were compensated but the work itself was volunteer work
Waitress
Cocktail server
Temp clerical worker
Field hand
Farm worker
Insurance clerk
Administrative Assistant
Legal secretary
Court reporter
Farmer's market vendor
Dollmaker
Writer
Editor
Publisher
Conference speaker
Paralegal/Legal Assistant
Mother
Homeschooler
Shepherdess
Homesteader/Small Farmer
Organic gardener
Food co-op organizer

Heart

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1. "RE: What jobs have you held in your life?"
 
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First job was cleaning bathrooms in the church community I lived in. I got .75 cents for a half bath and $1.00 for a full bath. I dragged supplies around the neighborhood in a little red wagon. Even a toothbrush for scrubbing grout. And I worked everyday for a summer and earned a enough money to buy a Holly Hobby wrist watch. I was 8 years old. All the moms with small children loved me for doing that.

I've also been:
- a babysitter (sometimes paid)
- Sunday school and VBS teacher (unpaid)
- I sold lottery tickets at a liquor store
- McDonalds
- Working a fried dough stand at a rodeo
- Receptionist for a vet
- Actress at a theater. Really. Decent pay even.
- Cleaning lady at a hotel (for 2 weeks! It was so gross!!!)
- Cleaning lady for a Christian publication company (unpaid)
- Missionary (decidely unpaid, and damn expensive too)
- Telemarketer (very short lived career there. Worse than cleaning nasty hotel rooms.)
- Financial aid office clerk
- Afterschool tutor (unpaid, again)
- Tutor for college students
- Teaching assistant (unpaid)
- Primary care provider at a rehab for adult men
- Receptionist at a birth center (unpaid)
- Retail manager

Editting to add that managing a household and juggling family schedules is no small job either. I recently estimated that I spend 30 hours a week doing housework, cooking, cleaning, grocery shopping and managing our budget. I don't even want to know how many hours ironing out scheduling conflicts and driving my kids places. Or other people's kids.


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2. "RE: What jobs have you held in your life?"
 
Babysitter in church nursery
Pet sitter
Retail at sporting good store
Courier
Resident Counselor at adolescent group homes
Co-owned/operated courier business
Receptionist at Commercial Real Estate Development Company
Various office temp jobs
Secretary at NIH -- Division of AIDS
Receptionist for Educational Supply Company
Independent cosmetics sales
Craftsperson/Artist
Writer
Mother
Housekeeper
Homeschooling Teacher/Mentor/Guide
Women's Activities Coordinator (church)
Newsletter Editor (homeschooling coop, as well as independent)
Web Designer/Webmaster of domestic violence website
Crisis counselor for battered women
Support group leader for abused/battered women
DV Educator


Sophia

"In her heart she is a mourner for those who have not survived. In her soul she is a warrior for those who are now as she was then. In her life she is both celebrant and proof of women's capacity and will to survive, to become, to act, to change self and society. And each year she is stronger and there are more of her." ---Andrea Dworkin, "A Battered Wife Survives"


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   - Also on the babysitter train, as well as nannying for Italian and Spanish bilingual families
- alternative/Montessori kindergarten and pre-K teacher
- art and movement teacher for developmentally disabled adults
- farmer's market manager and sprout salesperson (for almost nine summers -- great pay, awesome bartering and community, groovy as heck to get to be outside all morning)
- adult film/ sex toy reviewer
- graphic designer/web designer
- living floral arranger
- illustrator
- open mike emcee/ pub and street performer
- theater company recpetionist
- anti-nuclear canvasser
- self-defense trainer/kickboxing trainer
- telemarketer (has anyone ever been spared from this gig?)
- waitress (VERY short-lived. Until actually, I asked the owner what the hell he thought I was there for, to serve people's every need or something? Lightbulb.)
- espresso equipment trainer
- writer
- also on the financial aid office (in college, which rocked, since I was able to find out about all srts of scholarship money I could use I wouldn't have known about otherwise)!
- building caretaker
- renovations and demolition
- landscaper/gardener
- piano teacher
- co-op cashier and natural health advisor
- figure/nude model
- photographer
- sex educator
- barista
- in-home disability caretaker (worst job EVER, where a client physically assaulted me and I got stuck for hours in a tiny rom holding the door closed until the manager of the gig got there to rescue me: good times)
- soap shop retail
- jewelry polisher (I kid you not)
- ice skating teacher assistant
- summer camp counselor
- consultant for women's Internet interests
- lifeguard
- and one day in high school spent in a giant lobster suit for a restraurant (paid well, and was awfully fun to ride the subway as a big lobster)

Crazily, I am likely forgetting a few gigs. I can't think of a single time in my life when I had only one gig ging at a time. No doubt, I'm hardly alone in that.


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4. "RE: Oooh, I like this."
 
   Wow, let's see,
1 full month as a babysitter at 17, needed to get money & leave home--
Counter clerk in a Jack-in-the-Box
3-1/2 years in the Army as an Information specialist (2x), drug education specialist & courts clerk
Janitor
Factory assembler in two places
Hospital work, sending all food & equipment trays down to 'dirty' area for cleaning--Once sent an umbilical cord down that was left on a tray--I thought it was beautiful but they didn't think much of it in the basement--
Courtesy driver in a car dealership
Delivery, flowers, twice, best job cause everyone is happy to see you--Walked in on a stiff in a morgue though & wasn't too happy with that--
Restaurant cook, twice
Bartender
Engineering assistant at VA Hospital
Drafter at electronic firm
Janitor again
Warehouse worker
Dairy warehouse worker
Delivery driver in Seattle when I'd been there all of five weeks, lucky I'm good with maps
Lifeskills worker at a group home, absolutely the worst job ever but 'cause of the agency & not the clients though they ran a close second--LOL--
Probably more but I can't remembe them now--


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5. "RE: What jobs have you held in your life?"
 
   I have been putting this off for some reason.....

babysitter
hairdresser
nusery co-ordinator
sunday school teacher
homemaker
home schooler
counselor
youth leader
refurbish items and re-sell them
gourmet tomato seller (very fun....outdoors on a tomato farm all day, could bring my 1 year old baby with me and she was the greatest advertisment...little towhead running around eating tomatoes like they were apples. We both had a great tan too.)
in home care provider for Hospice patients

Annette


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6. "RE: What jobs have you held in your life?"
 
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Yikes. I've had a lot of jobs. I'm a jack of all trades.

babysitter
sold seeds to get a bow and some arrows
sold raffle tickets for my baseball team uniform
tutor
waitress
cashier
drug store clerk
grocery store stocker
artist
writer
alzheimers patient care
assisted a couple of female senior friends - errands, driving them to and from the doctor, cooked them meals, light housekeeping, administered medication, etc...
a very brief military career before my superiors started considering bringing me before a firing squad
martial arts instructor
clerical work
data entry
bilingual interpreter
teacher's assistant
library & computer assistant
billing clerk, accts payable & receivable, payroll
accountant
tax preparer
personnel/human resources
advertising
marketing
probation officer - county courthouse - dv division
paralegal
speaker at and for dv shelters
speaker to HUD
re-screened screens for neighbor women
wired neighbor women's cable
auto mechanic
copier repair tech
ac/dc/digital electricity and electronics tech
alarm systems tech & monitor
computer tech - hardware & software
computer operations mgr (numerous jobs)
computer builds
web site & design
domestic goddess

Dumbest job offers I ever turned down -- the UN & NASA

Longest I held a job before I got bored to tears or was fired for insubordination or by Mr. Psycho Asshole showing up and creating a scene -- a year.

Most outrageous "job offers" --

Several well-to-do businessmen wanted to pay me to be their live-in companion -- one even went to my father and asked him to talk to me and my father tried to talk me into it!

$5,000 to do a centerfold.

$2,000 a month if I'd fuck this crippled war veteran once a month -- straight sex, nothing kinky.

The run-of-the-mill offers to be a stripper, escort or kept mistress.

Um, no, I didn't take anyone up on any of these "job offers" and I wasn't polite about it. An extra thump on the head to my father for trying to sell me, even if he meant well.

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Women fly... when men aren't watching. -- anonymous


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7. "RE: What jobs have you held in your life?"
 
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Interesting, all the jobs I've held that you all have reminded me of. I've also designed, created, and maintained websites, of course. And I've been a DV counselor and resource person including being a liaison between the court system and DV victims. Ive also:

Served on the boards of various nonprofit religious organizations
Served on the boards of various nonreligous nonprofit organizations
Been a doula
Been a home birth attendant
Created and ran an organization for pregnant, nursing and young mothers

And I've also been solicited for prostitution, once by a boss who wanted to pay me to take nude pictures of me, a number of times just straight up solicited for various acts of prostitution, several times while I was working as a volunteer in the inner city that one summer, and ALL of the time when I was working as a cocktail waitress.

So those are outrageous job offers I never accepted. And, I suppose, I've tried to forget.

Heart

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8. "RE: What jobs have you held in your life?"
 
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I have thought, off and on throughout my life, or wondered, really, why I never did allow myself to be prostituted, especially when I was dirt poor and living shady, for lack of a better word, during and especially after my first marriage. I had nothing and was raising two little boys. And I could have made quite a bit of money doing that. But I never could bring myself to do it, no matter how desperately I needed the money, although I thought about it sometimes, was tempted. I think, honestly, that the reason I never did it was that I actually had a safety net of sorts. If I were desperate enough to prostitute myself, I would have been desperate enough to go back home to my parents and family and seek their help (which would have come severely with strings attached). I think women who do not have this safety net (which is also called "privilege") do often end up prostituted.

Longest I've ever held a paid job:

11 years editing and publishing my magazine and speaking across the country

Shortest I've ever held a paid job:

Two weeks as a cocktail waitress in a medieval type pub where you had to go up and down narrow stairs carrying trays of drinks and where the money was crap

I quit.

Fired:

I was fired once, one of my first clerical jobs. The woman I worked for got wind that I was going to school at night and wanted someone who was going to be "permanent." I was 22 or 23.

Heart

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9. "RE: What jobs have you held in your life?"
 
   Looking over our lists so far, ALL of us have been babysitters. Most of us have done waitress or other restaurant work. Most of us have cleaned houses. Several of us have done caregiving type work for people who need professional care.

And I doubt that if you got six men in here posting, they'd have been likely to do any of the above. Women are appointed to do this kind of work under male supremacy. What's interesting is, most of us have ALSO done what is understood to be "men's" work under male supremacy.

Our appointment as second class citizens to what is understood to be "shit work" (I don't think caregiving or babysitting is shit work, but men always have, which is why it is either not compensated or is poorly compensated, and that's why women/minorities are the ones who do it) is part of what defines our experiences as women. All of us here, no matter what we were born to, even if we were white and born into a middle class professional family, did shit work. The same would not be true of men. This separates us from those born male and unites us with all women, whatever their station. It has so disturbed me the lies out there-- that because we were born white or "to privilege" we escaped certain kinds of work. No we didn't. None of us.

Heart

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10. "RE: What jobs have you held in your life?"
 
   housework *is* shitwork.

I wonder if childcare and care of the elderly/infirm is not *actually* shitwork though. Only undervalued and underpaid.


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