The other thing is, and you probably know this but some reading might not, some feminists take the position that feminist politics require separation from men. This, of course, poses problems for women who agree with that position in theory but whose lives are entwined with the lives of men. (!) And often women in that situation are looking for real answers -- we've had women here asking those questions -- and they don't really find the answers in theory, it's just too abstract. So I liked the way the author of the article about social construction broke it down, what she (or he, I forget) said about choosing how we feel about people or choosing who we desire, because for women partnered with men who want a different, woman-centered life, who want to leave men behind -- and there are some -- that's pretty important information, and you don't find much about it that is helpful and positive too many places.

One interesting thing, different subject, the QBC site links to Mikie's old Feudamonia board and whoever it is that linked to the site thought Mikie was just the greatest thing since sliced bread, heh. (Mikie is a male radfem from years ago on the boards.)

Heart

I'm a radical feminist, not the fun kind. -- Andrea Dworkin

Mikie's posting at the Phoenix--and doesn't claim a gender identity of any kind, so I have no idea what the appropriate pronoun might be.

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I suppose arguments about choice make me leary -- shades of Phelps and his ilk. But I see where you are coming from Heart.

I still think that feminists working around separtism and the problematic areas of emotional and physical attachments/attraction to men would yield different answers than say, Gayle Madwin's answers. I don't see being separatist as being the same as lesbian. And I'm not sure that I would call a woman who was separatist and started having relationships with women as a lesbian. I would always be waiting for the other shoe to drop - you know, the one where she actually does reconcile her radical feminism with having men in her life!!!!! (which can be done)

Heh. http://www.gentlespirit.com/margins/Images/happy.gif";>

Actually, though, Me, I've e-mailed back and forth with women who identify as radical feminists and who really don't want any men in their lives at all. And they pretty much manage to make that happen and are happiest that way. And I see that. In my next life...

But it's sad when, as it turns out, a woman who feels this way is *married* and hopelessly entangled the way marriage entangles women and can't see any way out, and I e-mailed for a while with one such woman. She was really confused by her conflicting longings. I think sometimes, women like this need to hear from those who say you can choose. If they're at the mercy of their confusion, they might never be able to do what in the end might really be best for them to do.

Heart

I'm a radical feminist, not the fun kind. -- Andrea Dworkin

If you don't mind though, I'd like to add a link to this thread from my page at http://www.queerbychoice.com/choicelinks.html . . . the same place on the page where the links to the URC boards are.

I'll add your links to the links page here at the Margins, too, I'm in the process of doing all sorts of stuff in here.

I really appreciate the intelligence and thoughtfulness of the articles on your site-- thanks for your hard work (and I know what it takes to create a site like that, pretty impressive).

Again, welcome, and thanks.

Heart

I'm a radical feminist, not the fun kind. -- Andrea Dworkin

Heart

I'm a radical feminist, not the fun kind. -- Andrea Dworkin